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Mr. Jackson's Most Culturally Healthy Video Was

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Remember the Time
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Michael Jackson's memorial service concluded this week. How well did you know his body of work? What was MJ's most Culturally Healthy song? (Video)

I was doing a series of articles entitled Egyptians/AA Yesterday and Today, when out of the blue, I remembered the time Micheal Jackson did his most Culturally Healthy Video. Did you remember the time when Mr. Jackson took a big risk and brought an ethically accurate Classical African Civilization, Kemet (ancient Egypt) back to the world stage.

Lets go to the Video Tape

Most Americans remember Hollywood's culturally poisoned representations of ancient north Africa from movies like Cleopatra and The Ten commandments with Yul Brynner playing an African King Ra Moses II (Ramesses II).

Richard Pryor who had a Cultural Rebirth after his trip to Africa, made a short Cultural Literacy piece for his TV Show that is known by relatively few Americans and citizens of the world Egypt 1909, it is a most remarkable piece for its time. Eddie Murphy also did a Culturally Healthy movie, Coming to America which, did not have Kemet as its focus as in the case of Mr. Jackson and Mr. Pryor. However, it did have a positive cultural impact worldwide.

Now I may be in error, but as best I can remember Mr. Jackson was the first major entertainer to successfully produce a major work regarding the historicity of Classical African Civilization (CAC) designed to improve Cultural Literacy in the world's mass market .

Mr. Jackson is known to be a curious person, always asking questions. I wonder what is the back story regarding Mr. Jackson's Cultural Literacy regarding CAC. Did he consult with African Scholars on the video. How did this all come about.

How was your Cultural Literacy. How well did you know Mr. Jackson's work?

Did you get the answer right? (No cheating, before you read the article)

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This musical reflection is most interesting, at the end of a week where our first African American President visits Africa and speaks about the importance of history, Cultural Literacy and ancestral responsibility regarding his children.

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Reply#1 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:47 PM EDT
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"Remember the Time" was a damn good video, and I thought it was really cool how he portrayed Ancient Egypt in pays nobody had before. People tend to forget that Africans were rulers of Ancient Egypt as well, and this video helped some people come to terms with that fact. The video was well executed, the set was beautiful, and all of the guest appearances (Eddie Murphy, Iman, Magic Johnson, etc.) were great.

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Reply#2 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:57 PM EDT
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Hetep and Respect Kym in DC, you make some good points, especially about the guest appearances. I wonder what was the level of their Cultural Literacy of the guests, evidently more then many might think. Do you think Eddie Murphy influenced Mike in this video, or was it the other way around?

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#2.1 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT
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Remember the Time is an incredible video. I just watched it again today. To see Iman sitting there looking like a live spitting image of the archaelogical bust of Nefertiti that we all see in our history books is mindblowing.

The whole video showcases the splendor and royalty of what ancient African kingdoms must have been like and the regal physical beauty of black Africans using real black actors instead of nonblack actors with tan makeup. It is definitely a cultural tribute.

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Reply#3 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:49 PM EDT
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Hetep and Respect Sitafa Harden, your points are well taken and it is remarkable that we did not here more about this video in the 24 hr non-stop coverage on MJ in the MSM.

To see Iman sitting there looking like a live spitting image of the archaelogical bust of Nefertiti that we all see in our history books is mindblowing.

MJ really did his home work on this match up. I use three of many pics I extracted from the video in this article. If you watch the video and still frame on some of the Iman close ups, they are most striking and detailed. Even the Shots of the individual people in the street, like the last shot in this series of the lady in the brown and green, is worked out to the last detail.

Compare this to some of the thrown together music video's of today. MJ was certainly a master of his craft.

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#3.1 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:11 AM EDT
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"Remember" is a fine video with familiar faces, good choreography and a catchy tune. But it also has a bewigged MJ flipping his hair like a Valley girl, and his chiseled face and maquillage are not what I would call healthy. He exploits Hollywood's cliches about Egypt, just like the Bangles and comedian Steve Martin did. It's a cute time piece and amusing, but let's not confuse this with an accurate portrayal of Egypt.

I am glad he hired Black actors to portray Africans. But to my knowledge, the Somali-born Iman was the only Hamitic person in the whole video.

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    Reply#4 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:18 PM EDT
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    it also has a bewigged MJ flipping his hair like a Valley girl, and his chiseled face and maquillage are not what I would call healthy

    To piggy back on Aunk's comments below I believe you're failing to make a distinction between personal health/image and cultural health/image. I don't think it's fair to say that a black person choosing to alter themselves cosmetically is an indicator of poor cultural health or lack of cultural pride/identity. By that broad definition all of us who perm our hair, wear weave, put on makeup, or have any kind of plastic surgery would be classified as culturally unfit.

    Michael Jackson's preference concerning his own personal appearance does not mean he was unaware or ashamed of his heritage. Clearly he saw the beauty in our African history as evidenced by his detailed recreation of it in the Remember the Time video and wanted to share it with the world...that's the only point of this discussion.

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    #4.1 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:01 PM EDT
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    It's not for you to say what the only point of this discussion is.

    Quincy Jones has spoken candidly about MJ's negative self-image. Many Black people have had cosmetic surgery, but there are few examples of such obsessive, repetitive procedures such as MJ endured. It would be inaccurate to compare his compulsion to eradicate his racial features with ordinary folks who also undergo plastic surgery.

    Yes, Aunk, I made a different choice in the poll. My vote was for "Thriller." It showed a geeky side of Jackson, the midwestern boy from Gary, Indiana. While on a date with a pretty young Black woman, he's transformed into a night demon. The chivalrous young man tries to protect his date, even leaves the theatre after she becomes scared of the horror flick. But in the end, he succumbs to the dark forces.

    He is clearly a fan of these movies, and the casting of Vincent Price to do a rap was simply brilliant.

    MJ's death will not end the discussion about his eccentricities. He made his choices and he lived--and possibly died--by them.

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    #4.2 - Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:14 AM EDT
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    It's not for you to say either. But thanks for somewhat getting back on topic.

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    #4.3 - Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:38 AM EDT
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    You are the one making sweeping declarations, not me. I don't care for your snark, it's inappropriate. This is Aunk's column and he is the moderator.

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    #4.4 - Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:36 PM EDT
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    Hetep and Respect caroaber, thanks for responding to one of my questions good spirit. What does your name mean?

    Cultural Health is a difficult subject for many and it is easy for lack of clarity in the discussion to creep in. If the conversational discipline, that you see in most of my column discussions, is maintained we can minimise cultural confusion effects and maximize the Cultural Health benefits from our discussion.

    Sorry, I forgot to hit the reply button in my last post, my bad. Thriller is an interesting choice. As you are a new to Cultural Health concepts let me make a brief explanation regarding Cultural Health in the context of how I use it.

    Cultural Literacy Minute: Cultural Health = reduced Cultural Poisoning and improved Cultural Literacy.

    This article is focused on the last part of that equation.

    CLM: Cultural Literacy = knowledge of ones culture back to and including its Classical Civilization (s). In the case of the 2 billion plus Black people of the world this would be the Nile Vally civilizations.

    I hope you find these CLM's useful as they are important to the Cultural Health of our children.

    Clearly he saw the beauty in our African history as evidenced by his detailed recreation of it in the Remember the Time video and wanted to share it with the world.

    This is true and certainly bringing this forward was the primary goal of this article. Having said that, it is also reasonable to suspect that some will raise the Culturally Poisoned aspects of MJ's life. We should learn from all of the behaviors of our ancestors. I will probably do a piece on this subject also as the memorial is now past.

    Back to the matter at hand, Thriller was important for all the reasons you site however, is bears no relationship to Classical African Civilization, Kemet. In fact, we do not think of our honored ancestors as dancing around in tattered cloth, these are Western worldview concepts and contrary to Cultural Health in the Central worldview.

    I hope when you have a few free micro sec's you will answer the other questions I posed, especially this one.

    But to my knowledge, the Somali-born Iman was the only Hamitic person in the whole video.

    What is a Hamitic person and how is that related to Classical African Civilization proper?

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    #4.5 - Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:52 PM EDT
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    The Hamitic people are the dominant group in both Egypt and the Horn of Africa. Akin to Semites in language, they are distinct from what are called the Negroid peoples of Africa. (Anwar Sadat was said to be angered that he was portrayed by Louis Gossett, Jr., a Black American, in a TV docudrama.) The supermodel Iman looks like an East African. I would submit that Magic Johnson and the other featured performers in the "Remember" video do not look like their ancestry is from Egypt or the Horn. They look like Americans of West African backgrounds. (My ex-brother-in-law was a Nigerian Igbo who lost relatives in the Biafran War.)

    Don't get me wrong, I like the video and MJ. But if we're to speak of cultural distinctions, Black Americans and Africans are often worlds apart.

    My tag combines both my first and last names. (I am Carolyn.)

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    #4.6 - Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:29 PM EDT
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    Hetep and Respect coroaber, thank you for taking the time to give a detailed response regarding the relevance of Hamitic. It is most important, instructive and revealing. Time is not on my side today but I hope to have some free microseconds to share some information regarding Hamitic with you later this evening.

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    #4.7 - Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:50 AM EDT
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    H&R caroaber, sorry for the delayed response. However, if the sun is up, as a person of the sun, I am in it. We do not get that much sun here in the Eastern USA, as in the mother land. So we must re-energize our melanin when we can.:-)

    First, you should understand that the people who today occupy modern day Egypt bare no more resemblance to the native people of the land of Kmt, then do the majority of Americans today resemble Native Americans.

    The Hamitic people are the dominant group in both Egypt and the Horn of Africa.

    The word and concept of "Hamitic" people is a European concept. The Classical Africans called themselves Kamu. from kmt (the land of the Blacks). I wrote a book The What Makes You Black, Blook. that goes into the origin of the Word (s) that the Classical Africans used to describe themselves and the first ethnographic studies in recorded history that describe traditional Africans including the Kamau as distinguished from Asians and Caucasians.

    Akin to Semites in language,

    Semites or multi-ethnics ("simi-ethnic") are a biological group like Arabs. The languages like Hebrew are based on Canaanite language (African). I look to African language experts like Dr. Diop on these matters.

    they are distinct from what are called the Negroid peoples of Africa.

    Negroid is a term invented by racist to perpetrate racism. The "N" word in all its forms is poisonous. The more culturally healthy terminology is Africoid. The three major ethnic groups on the planet are Africoid, Asioid and Caucasoid.

    Cultural Literacy Minute: Words are both the symptom of Cultural Poisoning and the means of transmitting the dis-ease.

    Where did you learn the word "Negroid"? Did a Black person teach you this?

    (Anwar Sadat was said to be angered that he was portrayed by Louis Gossett, Jr., a Black American, in a TV docudrama.)

    This, if true, demonstrated a symptom of his cultural poisoning. There are many Black Arabs that suffer from thinking themselves "Arab" and not Black. Like the Europeans the Arabs induced their own forms of Cultural Poisoning on African people as they invaded and occupied parts of the continent.

    I would submit that Magic Johnson and the other featured performers in the "Remember" video do not look like their ancestry is from Egypt or the Horn.

    All the African scholars I know of from Dr. Diop to Dr. Jeffries and Dr. Vega would disagree with this statement. More importantly the Classical Africans themselves disagree with you. I recommend to you Dr. Van Sertemers book Egypt Revisited. A Great photo archaeologist partnered with him in this effort.

    They look like Americans of West African backgrounds.

    West Africans came from East Africa, see Dr. Diop. All Africans come from the mountains of the moon and traditionally produce substantial amounts of melanin.MJ being the minority exception in the case of the video.

    Black Americans and Africans are often worlds apart.

    This is true, if you are talking about psychological Blackness. However, with respect to biological Blackness there are some 2 billion of us Black people worldwide. We all have a Claim on Classical African Civilization, kemet, just as the relatively few Europeans in the world have a claim of Classical European Civilization , Greece.

    My tag combines both my first and last names. (I am Carolyn.)

    Nice to meet you Carolyn and to know that your handle has a meaning. The Internet in many ways has reactivated African Ancestral memory. The handle conventions in Cyberspace are not unlike the more complex metu neter (Hieroglyphic) concepts used as writing and paper was brought into recorded history.

    What does your name Carolyn mean? Do you have and African name?

    Tnx again for sharing.

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    #4.8 - Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:45 AM EDT
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    Hetep and Respect caroaber, Interesting observations, I would like to learn more about what you mean.

    are not what I would call healthy

    If you are asserting that MJ suffered from personal image poisoning I would not disagree. However, I do not let that reality detract from his courageous and bold effort to restore Classical African Civilization (CAC) to the minds of man. The question it raises is about ones capacity to make a distinction between personal Cultural Poisoning and the more outward directed group Cultural Poisoning.

    He exploits Hollywood's cliches about Egypt, just like the Bangles and comedian Steve Martin did

    Tell me more about what you mean by this?

    but let's not confuse this with an accurate portrayal of Egypt.

    It is a fact, that the African/AA scholastic community from DR. Amen to my friend Dr. J had technical criticism. I do not disagree with what they pointed out at the time. However, I do say at this point in history, as we look back on our ancestor's body of work, this video stands out in my mind as MJ's most Culturally Healthy.

    Did you make a diffrenct choice in the Poll?

    But to my knowledge, the Somali-born Iman was the only Hamitic person in the whole video.

    What is a Hamitic person and how is that related to Classical African Civilization proper?

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